Comments on: Leaked: Honda CR-Z Revealed as Official Brochure Sneaks Out

By: Bill Blazenski

Bill Blazenski — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:16:46 +0000

Honda’s IMA mated with a 14 hp electric motor, will not produce anywhere near 50 mpg in the real world. Expect 35 mpg, or, you will be disappointed.

By: mahout

mahout — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 14:50:42 +0000

A 112 hp 2 passenger Fit will fail in the marketplace. I expect Mugen will substute at least a 150 hp engine which of course is what Sochiro would have done. Whether by forced induction or more displacement the CRZ MUST be an economical sports car, not a sporty economy car.
Otherwise it will be another gen2 lot sitter.
How did these non-performance marketing people get in charge? Sochiro must be spining in his grave at 16,000 rpm.

By: joe

joe — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:21:04 +0000

True to an extent about displacement. When comparing apples to apples in the Honda IMA arena…displacement matters. I also imagine the CR-Z’s ECU is programmed more for performance than MPG’s.

Prius is whole different ball game. The electric side of the powertrain is much more front and center in the Toyota system.

By: Colum Wood

Colum Wood — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:16:52 +0000

Thanks for those Japanese test cycle numbers. This would seem to suggest a lower number for the Insight, however, a larger engine doesn’t always mean worse fuel economy. Take the 2010 Prius, it gets better highway fuel economy because the lager 1.8-liter engine doesn’t have to work as hard at highway speeds.

By: joe

joe — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:30:05 +0000

The 22.5 KM / L city and 25 KM / L highway are lower than the Insight II in the japanese test cycles.

The Insight II hybrid is rated as delivering 26 km/L (61 mpg US, 3.8 L/100km) in JC08 mode and 30 km/L (70.6 mpg US, 3.3 L/100km) in 10•15 mode.

I’m not sure how the CR-Z numbers are represented in the Japanese test cycles, but I would expect teh CR-Z’s to be lower since the engine displacement is larger than the Insight.

By: crxgator

crxgator — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:29:03 +0000

They have the MGP listed, it’s just in metric – 22.5 KM / L city and 25 KM / L highway. This equates to 52/59 MPG.