10 Reasons Fiat Chrysler Automobiles is in Big Trouble

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10 Reasons Fiat Chrysler Automobiles is in Big Trouble

As the only major automaker in the world with more debt than cash, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCA) appears to be in big trouble.

Here’s why the company has some serious soul searching to do:

1. GM Doesn’t Want to Merge

Recently, FCA CEO Sergio Marchionne made it known that he’s interested in the idea of a merger with General Motors. The other giant American automaker isn’t interested, however, despite FCA’s eagerness to find a partner. GM executives won’t even entertain the idea, even though Marchionne says the merger would be too good to ignore.

2. FCA is Lagging Behind Competitors

Looking at the big picture, FCA is behind its main competitors in numerous categories including profit margin, R&D spending, fuel economy, hybrid technology, autonomous driving and more. But according to Marchionne, the automaker isn’t desperate at all and he believes the company can survive on its own “in mediocrity.” Naturally, Marchionne prefers not to have FCA operating in mediocrity and would like a partner that would benefit from a mutual relationship.

3. Most of FCA’s Models are Outsold by the Competition

The only glowing part of FCA’s portfolio currently is the Jeep Wrangler, Cherokee and Grand Cherokee. Those three models are the only ones out of 23 offerings from FCA US that aren’t outsold by a segment competitor.

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4. Margins are Still Down

And despite taking dramatic steps to increase profit margin in North America, FCA’s margins still remain well behind its competitors even though it has increased wholesale prices in the U.S.

5. Platforms are Old

Perhaps one of the main reasons why FCA is struggling with sales is that many of the company’s top-selling vehicles are still built on platforms that would widely be considered antiquated by other automakers. For example, the current Dodge Charger, Challenger and Chrysler 300 are all based on a Mercedes-Benz platform that was first used in the 2005 model year. In an age where automakers are moving onto lighter weight, more versatile platforms, FCA lags behind its competition with new technology.

SEE ALSO: Here’s How FCA is Going to Fix its Recall Mess

6. Manufacturing Costs Are Too High

In fact, there isn’t a single FCA platform that underpins over one million vehicles a year, which increases costs for manufacturing. Currently, all FCA platforms are reworks of architectures that Marchionne found when he joined Fiat in 2004, prior to taking over the bankrupted Chrysler in 2009. To meet crash standards for those platforms, each new model became heavier than its predecessor, meaning worse fuel economy, especially since most automakers are moving forward to lighter weight platforms and lightweight materials such as aluminum. Over the recent years, the weight disadvantage has continued to increase since no new platforms are being developed.

7. Fleet MPG Sucks

Last year, the FCA’s U.S. fleet averaged 21.1 mpg, which is last among all volume automakers in corporate average fuel economy. The current leader is Nissan, which has a corporate average fuel economy of 26.8 mpg. Even more ironic, the only hybrid that you can purchase from any of the company’s 11 brands is the $1.4 million LaFerrari, which we all know is hardly a car that has fuel economy as its main priority. There is, however, the Fiat 500e that’s offered in California and parts of Oregon, but even Marchionne himself has said that he hopes no one purchases it since the company loses about $14,000 per Fiat 500e sold.

8. FCA Needs to Boost Global Operations

Looking at the global market, FCA is still the sum of four regional and marginally interconnected regions, and sales are shrinking in Brazil and the company has a very minor presence currently in the Asia-Pacific. Other automakers including Toyota, GM, Ford and Hyundai all have strong presences overseas, especially in China.

9. No Progress with Autonomous Driving

FCA is also one of the few automakers that have made no progress with connected cars and autonomous driving, technologies that Marchionne calls a Pandora’s box of problems.

10. More Debt Than Cash

Lastly, FCA has a net debut of $8 billion, while every other company is in a net cash position.

Marchionne attributes some of the company’s issues to Chrysler’s former debt, having bought out the UAW’s Voluntary Employees’ Beneficiary Association with $11 billion in cash and having to repay the government loans. FCA has also had to invest billions into modernizing the factories previously held by Chrysler’s former owner, Cerberus. The CEO acknowledges that the company has work to do in catching up with hybrids and electrification, which will start with the next-generation Chrysler Town & Country minivan next year.

[Source: Automotive News]

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  • Also, Chrysler products are of poor quality and reliability. We’ve seen many recalls from Chrysler. Maybe Chrysler should not have been saved from bankruptcy

  • Bug S Bunny

    Right on schedule, FCA (and Chrysler specifically) is on track for 2019 for being saved again by either the U.S. government, another company (GM?), or some other fate. The cycle started in 1979. It might be time for the cycle of saving to end.

  • Chris Daigle

    I recently rented a Chrysler 200 for about 2 weeks. Not a terrible driving car, but a seriously terrible and dangerous cruise control.

  • Jonny_Vancouver

    Yikes. That was painful to read. I can’t help but feel sympathy for the company, but in the end they’ve has as much time and as many chances as any other company, even a government bailout out. I think it’s law of the jungle time: survival of the fittest. Let them find their own way out without any more help, and if they can’t, let ’em die. We neither need nor want a company that can’t stay current and competitive.

  • smartacus

    My God, that’s so true. It looks like curtains for FCA.
    Sergio is blinded by the fact that his ideas sound great and would work.

    Being correct has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the real world.
    Defeating the others wherever you can is what works.

    This is a hostile environment that wants to see you drown, not tread water on a life preserver.

  • hobbie1

    So why is FCA selling so many vehicles? Why are the FCA dealers busy with customers? Why are there so many RAM 2500’s running around California, Why does everyone love their Grand Cherokees – the same GC’s selling with little incentives? Why is FCA stock trading well above the price it opened at last year? You all are probably the same bunch that drool over Tesla meanwhile Tesla keeps floating more stock offerings to fund a company that is making cars that few can afford – like $125K crossovers. Yes the 200 is not some revolutionary auto but looking at the numbers FCA is selling them. I would not underestimate Sergio.

  • hobbie1

    Global? What do you think FCA is going to do with the Jeep brand? Did you miss the memo?

  • Roy Levy

    so what if GM doesn’t want to marge ?! FCA has room to expend in so many ways . alfa romeo is a big name in europe and new cars from them gonna sale in a very good margins , the jeep expansion in china an india , maserati SUV , and ferrari IPO. and also in my opinion FCA buying mazda is just a matter of time . and with rev/market cap of 0.18 !!! the stock is cheap.

  • Craig

    I say… hook up with Suzuki. Don’t merge. Just get Suzuki to build a few dodge badged economy cars. ALSO – stop coming across as the town whore. GM doesn’t want to so drop it.

  • itguy08

    Did you see Aug’s sales #’s? Jeep and Ram (not so much Ram) are the only things propping up FCA.

    FCA is done – stick a fork in them. You don’t beg for mergers if you are financially sound.

  • FCA will make the ownership of Ferrari to money (i think on Columbus day), which is likely to significantly reduce the debt.

    FCA is meanwhile very well covered with modern modular platforms.

    The mini platform (Fiat 500, Panda,Lancia y), the small platform (Fiat Grande Punto +Doblo+Linea, Alfa Mito, Ram Promaster city), the small wide platform (Jeep Renegade, Alfa Giulietta, Fiat 500 L+X, the Fiat U.S. compact platform (Chrysler 200, Dodge Dart, Jeep Cherokee) the innovative (high streng steel, aluminium, carbon mix) Giorgio plattform which in the future will underpinne many Alfa, Dodge, and Chrysler modell, a new Chrylser designed platform (codenname RU) which next year will underpinn the next-generation Chrysler Town & Country Minivan, the new light weight platform Maserati designed for Levante SUV purpose, which in future will underpinn the all new Jeep Grand Cherokee and Grand Wagooner.
    The conclusion, FCA has accumulated tecnology lag in the development of hybrid, is simply wrong. FCA has the rights over Ferrari and Magneti Marelli developed technolgy, this includs the Ferrari LaFerrrari hybrid propulsion unit, but also highly efficient formula 1 hibrid and Kers systems.

    The mere fact that FCA over the next few months on the market new Chrysler Town & Country minivan generation, in a hybrid drive version can offer, proves that the opposite is true. Marchionne waited for the right moment, the designs of the new Chrysler permits to store the heavy batteries deep down, what brings benefits for both the center of gravity as well as the space with them

  • Rob Pridham

    The platform stuff (points 5 and 6) is errant nonsense. Err, Ghibli, Quattroporte, Giulia? You can pejoratively label their contemporary platforms like Fiat Compact a reworking if you like, rather than as evolutions, to which I say name any another car and I’ll show you a reworking of a Model T or a Landau carriage. It’s tired old rubbish and the same finger isn’t pointed at say VW and their MQB architecture.

    You also talk about decreasing weight, but show me this as a meaningful trend. Certainly BMW’s product lineup is still getting heavier over time.

    Much of the rest of this article is dubious too. To put it alternatively, as one analysis said, “The gift that keeps on giving. When you take a company hated by
    investors, add the best CEO in the industry, a group of under-invested
    brands, a focus on ROIC and margin expansion, all at a cyclical trough
    in Europe, you get a powerful brew of value-creating potions.”

  • hobbie1

    Corporations seek out mergers all the time – Sergios job – 1. create product customers want – Check. – 2. pay off goverment loans – check. 3. take company public – check. – 4. build global markee brand (Jeep) – check (Jeeps are an American phnomen with global recognition). 5. Get rid of the dog dealers – check. 6. Build shareholder equity / return – work in progress (seeking out “strategic options” like GM or others like Mazda). Compaines shop themselves all the time, most recently Safeway, NCR and others. Lastly if FCA goes away hold on because the suppliers in the food chain will be impacted – the same ones that supply Ford and GM. Lower deliveries at the supplier level will impact everyone. I guess you’ll now say that the customer will just pick something else – it does not work that way – customers are finicky and will go dark for a while – this would impact the suppliers and the other brands.

  • hobbie1

    Nicely put – And this is why the stock has hung around $14 despite the market up and downs over the last few weeks.

  • hobbie1

    Bingo – and sales keep rising – and if you want to talk reliability just ask any owner of a BMW with 100K on one of their SUV’s or 5 series – mechanics call them oil seves. Watch the CBS 60 minute interview of Sergio – he is brilliant. He is asthey say stiring the pot.

  • Rob Pridham

    Read his infamous presentation, “Confessions of a Capital Junkie”, if you wonder what the apparently bizarre approach to GM is all about. Something similar will eventually happen one way or another, even if not with both the same parties involved. There’s currently far too much waste and duplication.

    Remember that he’s been right at least a couple of times already – buying Chrysler was derided as idiotic at the time, but it then saved Fiat from the Euro crisis. Then he has so far been on the money with the strategy – the polarisation of the market into budget & premium, long before others reacted. I expect that given time he’ll be right in his grandstanding about mergers too – just don’t expect anyone to agree the first few times around, certainly not GM.

    As for quality and reliability, it’s all much the same across all brands these days, very good. FCA are no laggards either though; you have an idea it’s going well when Audi execs visit your factories to see how it’s done.

  • itguy08

    1. What products outside of Jeep and to a lesser extent, Ram does the public want? Sales of Dodge and Chrysler were down last month a substantial amount. bit:fca
    2. Yup.
    3. FCA is already public – google bit:fica for a quote

    4. FCA Already has global market brands and Jeeps are poor quality vehicles and outclassed by others (Toyota, Land Rover)
    5. I’m sure there are plenty of dog dealers still around.
    6. They are grasping for straws with a merger. Outside of Jeep who wants what they have? They have the highest labor costs, lowest quality, and lowest owner loyalty.

    The supplier thing is a myth. Yes there will be pain. But you don’t loose 250k of cars a year (in the US) without someone picking up the slack. Everyone else’s sales will go up as that void needs to be filed. Others would buy the factories and probably Jeep would go to some other buyer. But it would be “messy” for a short time and people would go about their business and buy something else in the meantime.

  • itguy08

    Sales do not keep rising. The only bright spot is Jeep and Ram. And with the F150 production finally catching up to demand Ram sales are down. And most likely will be down again through the rest of the year. Why buy the has been (Ram) when the Ford and GM products are superior in most metrics?

  • Rob Pridham

    Look it up. Continuous month on month sales gains since March 2010.

  • itguy08

    The majority of the industry has that too…..

  • Rob Pridham

    So now your claim is what? That *comparative* sales aren’t rising? Make your mind up. I think you’re going to be wrong on that one too.

  • itguy08

    HUH? FCA’s sales were rising just like the majority of the industry. That is coming to a close.

    Jeep and Ram are propping them up. Ram sales are slowing down thanks to the F150 and GM vehicles. Chrysler and Dodge have been up and down but mostly down. Jeep is the only shining star in FCA’s portfolio and what is carrying them in the USA.

  • Rob Pridham

    You specifically said that “sales do not keep rising”. Trouble is, they do keep rising. Then you tried to implicitly revise that claim to market share, which is also wrong, post-Chrysler bailout. And now you’ve moved to future sales growth, which noone can prove wrong, what with it being the future and all, but it’s still not looking great.

  • itguy08

    Chrysler’s sales increases:

    August 2015: +1.65%
    July 2015: +6.3%
    June 2015: +8.15%
    May 2015: +4.09%
    April 2015: +5.81%
    March 2015: +1.73%
    February 2015: +5.63%
    January 2015: +14.01%

    So, yes up but starting a downward trajectory since December 2014 (+20.1%).

    Source is Autoblog’s most recent By the #’s post.

    And if you take out Ram and Jeep FCA is in dire straits. Especially with the oldest pickup in the fleet and no new model in sight.

  • Rob Pridham

    Why stop there? Why not take away Maserati, Ferrari, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, LCVs, all the other bits of the business and all the other areas of the world. I’m sure you can eventually reconfigure it into a problem if you try.

  • itguy08

    Cause Fiat didn’t buy them. They bought Chrysler. And Chrysler has been on the rocks for 30+ years now.

    It is a problem. It’s so much of a problem Sergio sees the only way out is a merger. Perhaps you need to take your blinders off.

    Also don’t forget they are spinning Ferrari off into its own company.

  • Rob Pridham

    More of the ever-retreating argument. They are the constituents of FCA though, so we’re not just talking about Chrysler, are we?

    But let’s. FCA’s Chrysler is not Daimler’s Chrysler disaster, nor Eaton’s before it. Fiat saved Chrysler from bankruptcy, Chrysler saved Fiat from annihilation in the Euro debt crisis, and now it’s a bit of co-dependency. So far it appears to be working.

    Marchionne sees the only way out for *any* car maker the size of FCA as being M&A; that is, that there will only be a very small number of global players in the end. This has been fairly well articulated and makes economic sense, and contrary to your claims, appears to have little to do with any particular peril that FCA finds itself in today. Whether he will find a willing candidate any time soon is another matter.

    Fiat SpA and its contemporary successor has been good to me, somewhere between tripling and quadrupling my investment. There are many things to worry about, but neither your critiques nor the article do a very good job of describing them.

  • FCA U.S. market share growths every year (since in 2009 Fiat take over Chrysler)
    see the website: www- carsitaly > charts > USA.

  • hobbie1

    Well said!

  • hobbie1

    I concur – and both Ford (F) and FCA have treated me well.

  • hobbie1

    Look at the numbers from the site I just posted – your data is flawed and August is down because of the calendar shift for labor day. All car sales were down – look at the brands.

  • hobbie1

    Blah blah blah – just like iphone is the only shinning star at Apple. It only takes one shinning star – and management that stays the course.

  • hobbie1

    Geez – every car company has been on and off the rocks over the last 30 years. Your beginning to sound like Musk – I will rule the industry …. as long as I can keep floating stock offers to offset the negative cash flow. FCA will die – as long as we keep excluding brands from the portfolio……

  • itguy08

    Excuses, excuses…

  • itguy08

    Whatever- not every company has been on the rocks. Chrysler is the only company to be bailed out TWICE in it’s history. TWICE. Think about that for a minute – you and I have had to bail out this POS company twice. Nobody bailed out any of the others that went before them.

    You have to look no further than FCAs future plans for the USA. Not much as many of their models are delayed and delayed. So they will be selling the same garbage they have been selling since forever. Precisely what got them into the mess in 2008.

    Some of the stuff is getting refreshed but their bread and butter is not.

    Chrysler has been a turkey since, well forever. Bad decisions after bad decisions and lousy quality. There is a reason they have abysmal owner loyalty except for some rabid fans.

    Either way we’ll see who is right but I have a feeling in 10 years Chrysler and Dodge will be footnotes in history and Jeep and Ram will be owned by the Chinese or the Indians. Just like Jaguar/Land Rover and Volvo.

  • hobbie1

    Actually facts regarding the calendar – forget Autos – every retailer knows the comp issues for August -the calendar shifted.

  • Wayne Wilkie

    Funny, when I see new F150’s transported 3 at a time in the Detroit area, it’s usually an 06 Ram 3500 pullin the trailer!

  • Wayne Wilkie

    Checked other auto companies for recalls lately? Nope, didn’t think so.

  • Mark Wheeler

    AGREE !!!

  • Seth570123

    Ah, I see you had a typo and called your list “Ten Things FCA is Doing Right”.

    #1 The Hell Cat line-up is a joke. – It shows nothing of interest to what most car buyers are looking for. – “Look at our big, obnoxious, loud, horrible gas-mileage getting, poorly crafted crap, you can’t do anything more with than make yourself look like an obnoxious, self-conceited, little-dick-complex having asshole with, which you can’t afford anyway!” Hoorah. – Yeah. Great idea.

    #2 The Jeep Cherokee? What is that thing supposed to be anyway – an alien space-ship crossed with a panda-bear? It doesn’t stick to Jeep’s routes in any way. Basically, it looks like they built a cross-over SUB for another company, and slapped a Jeep badge on it. I know the could have done something e little closer to the heritage of the Jeep brand, and still sold plenty of as-well. If anything they should have styled and branded this particular SUV for Dodge to help bring that brand a little glory, but, Chrysler isn’t known for making good decisions, so I guess it passes the ‘why not’ question in that respect.

    #3 Goal to merge ‘TO DRIVE EFFICIENCIES’ (?) – What? Drive efficiencies? Are you kidding me? Did you read the article? Have you watched the Chrysler group at all over the past 10 years? They’re looking to make bank off of ‘partnering’ – a.k.a ‘leaching off of’, especially in FCA’s case – a company who actually has experience with efficiency to save their asses… Sounds like stealing/ being a parasite to me – but, I guess you could call that ‘driving’ efficiencies… Although I think ‘DRIVING FOR the easy-way-out’ or ‘DRIVING TO leach off of another company to make gains in efficiency’ would be more accurate.

    And lastly, #4 – Horrible Marketing – See #1 of this list.

    Sorry, guy, not trying to be confrontational, just trying to be realistic.

    I’d love to see the Chrysler group do better, buck Fiat, and be their own company again – I think they have a few good products that really stick-out from their competition and could be great bases for them to spring-forward with.

    But, it seems to me like they’re just caught-up, as-f the company’s constipated, and only capable of producing bad, out-dated, inefficient, turds from a big-picture point of view, for the most part, at least in my opinion… and continue to make HORRIBLE marketing decisions (which I think are also being pushed by/ aided by FIAT, because their marketing scheme sucks as well)…

    It’s a bit sad to see with all the heritage behind the Chrysler group and all it’s brands and the companies they’ve assimilated over the years…

    But, it is what it is.

  • Seth570123

    My only issues with this article, are with points 2, 3, 5, 8, and 9.

    2. FCA is Lagging Behind Competitors — This was kind-of a collective point, which was broken down in the following points, but I just wanted to mention it as some of the issues it brought up were some of the following, of which are the ones I had issues with.

    3. Most of FCA’s Models are Outsold by the Competition — You don’t have to outsell the competition to make a profit, or keep your business afloat.

    5. Platforms are Old — A lot of the Chrysler group’s most successful products were decade-old platforms… The XJ Cherokee and TJ Wrangler coming to mind – both of these suffered from a lack of R&D in the end, and really didn’t need to be entirely killed when they had – they could have done a lot better with some serious improvement in engine efficiency/ options. The TJ Wrangler, really could have done a lot better if it had a decent engine dropped in, maybe a turbo inline-4, maybe the same for the Cherokee as-well… If anything, both of these platforms only really could have used a little tweaking/ weren’t that far off from an ideal vehicle, which their newer versions don’t even come close to (they’re in a different category/ segment all together now (not that that’s a bad thing, at least in terms of the JK Wrangler (definitely filled a gap that need to be filled, at least with the Unlimited/ 4-door version (although I think they could have done something similar with the TJ platform, but the TJ WAS a bit small/ tight to be denoted as ‘premium’, I suppose, at least for most people’s idea of the word in today’s vehicle market))).

    8. FCA Needs to Boost Global Operations — You don’t need to be global to turn a profit or be successful…

    9. No Progress with Autonomous Driving — Autonomous driving? Who cares? Who drives one anyway? I have not heard a single person in daily-life say anything about an autonomous cars, let alone desiring to drive/ own one, let alone even to try driving one. Everyone I’ve talked to about it has said that they don;t like the idea of the car having control anyway – but, maybe that’s just due to my locale – being in a primarily Republican state and from an area of very independent-life-style minded people…

  • Bing Crosby

    I don’t know if this is one of the reasons they are in trouble, but it’s definitely one of the reasons they suck.
    100. Days.
    That’s how long it took them to replace the engine in my 2013 Challenger RT+ Blacktop.
    Sure, I understand it takes time to do the engineering survey and to write up the estimate and for the insurance company to review and accept the estimate, that part took three weeks. I remember the day very clearly because it was my parents anniversary – June 19. The engine hydro locked on May 25. I called on June 28 wondering if I might have my car for the July 4 holiday and they told me that they didn’t have the engine and didn’t expect for July 27. On July 27 they push the estimate back to August 29. I finally rolled out of there and it September 4.
    This is my second challenger. I got a V-6 in July 2011. Same dealership. Never missed a payment, never been late on a payment, and despite having submitted the estimate to State Farm based on the KBB/NADA value of 26,000, when I tried to trade the car (Which at 27,555 was about to have a brand new engine) for a duplicate 2015, they wanted to screw the value by 7000 and only offered me 19.
    It’s like the sales force is Sgt. Bilko and the shop is run by F Troop.

  • Mike Strandberg

    apparently, seth doesn’t like FCA…or cars. The Hellcat is a marketing goldmine! They couldn’t make enough of them. Then you have to belittle anyone who would want one. Go away, child.

  • Mark Wheeler

    Jeep is the Trophy and the Golden Goose!

  • William Hinkle

    Well stated.

  • William Hinkle

    Love Chrysler products forever.

  • maserati123

    Well it does not matter for me.I WILL ALWAYS BUY FCA VEHICLES.I HAV2 AND WILL BUY FOUR MORE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AS SOON AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE

  • maserati123

    ME TOO BUDDY…

  • maserati123

    COMPARED TO VW,I THINK FCA IS IN THE WINNERS CIRCLE…EVEN FERRARI IS WINNING RACES AGAIN,AND THE RENEGADE IS OUTSELLING EVERY VEHICLE IN EUROPE.

  • maserati123

    VW HAS MANY OLD CARS ALSO,AND STILL SOLD THE MOST CARS LAST YEAR,BUT NOW,,,,WELL,,, WE KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY.

  • crag keeper

    As if GM doesn’t have problems with their hot selling “new platform” cars. Same with Ford.
    It’s all about perception. Chevy sells tons of Cruzes. The turbo engines are garbage. But people still buy the bowtie.

  • This article was too kind. Instead of selling Alfa, FCA pumped billions into nothing more than an experiment. That money should have been pumped into FCA’s cash cow: Noth America where not a single brand sans Ram has a complete line up with odd decisions made such as giving Dodge a compact, Chrysler a midsizer and not nearly enough investment in Jeep. This logic (even if you look at Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram as sub brands) is flawed because, aside from customers needing to brand hop, FCA dealerships are nonetheless missing key vehicles in vital segments.
    Even Jeep, spoiled by FCA standards, is still selling Compass and Patriot!
    FCA could have swung a great platform/technology deal with Mazda. In exchange, FCA has one amazing assetnt–a massive dealer network that would have aided Mazda in the heartland.A similar deal with PSA is FCA’s only hope unless a Chinese partner can be found.

  • Jeep needs more products for global sale meaning Compass and Patriot need to be replaced. This should have been done three years ago.

  • The issue is that FCA has too many platforms killing scale and harming profit.
    Also, Chrysler200 needs a 9 speed tranny to get so so gas mileage. The new Malibu is only 3100 pounds and gets more miles than Chrysler with a six speed. Ford’s next platform will be 2900 pounds.

  • TrueGamer

    Turn off your caps dumbass.

  • TrueGamer

    There’s a sucker born every minute. There’s a reason Chrysler is the only automobile company that’s in the red.

  • Charles Clemen

    TURN OFF YOUR ASS DUMBASS

  • TrueGamer

    Sorry, I didn’t realize you were mentally deficient. Carry on with your retarded ways.

  • TrueGamer

    20 year old junkers you bought out of a junkyard for $20 don’t count moron.

  • Charles Clemen

    hahahahahaha.

  • Charles Clemen

    I love FCA.I have Fiat and Maserati,and plan on getting Alfa Romeo 4C,and the Pacifica Mini Van.Keep it going FCA,but stop the recalls.Leave that to VW and GM and Ford.

  • 2nazty

    would you care to place a wager on it? I’m willing to bet SM is setting FCA up for sale or bankruptcy and he and the Agnelli’s plan on taking the money and walk away

  • 2nazty

    LOL really hmmm tell the EPA that
    wonder what year it will actually be able to beat a Shelby GT500?

  • 2nazty

    Please let me be the one to flush the turd that is FCA away 😀

  • chitown

    All 3 of those brands are running circles around Fiat in all aspects. Open your eyes.

  • chitown

    Because Europeans think the Renegade is American, without understanding that it’s a piece of junk nobody in the US will touch. Doesn’t make it any less of a bad vehicle.

  • chitown

    I actually think Jeep should simply focus on the Wrangler and the Cherokee/Grand Cherokee. The rest of their lineup is just a train wreck.