2016 Cadillac ATS-V Review

Making BMW drivers mVious

More powerful, quicker and outright faster than a comparable BMW, Cadillac’s newest model is the best reason to skip the letter M and head all the way down the alphabet to V.

The smallest and lightest V model ever, Cadillac has applied years of development from its CTS-V models, not to mention a racing program that has been winning championships on race tracks across America for over a decade.

So where better to put Caddy’s claims to the test than on the long straights and complex corners of the Circuit of the Americas Formula 1 circuit in Austin, Texas?

Turbocharged Power

The lessons learned for this car may come from the past, but Cadillac certainly didn’t borrow from the archives when it came to the ATS-V’s engine. While past V models have been V8s and often supercharged ones at that, that’s certainly not the case here. Instead there’s a new twin-turbo V6.

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As one might expect of a modern high-performance turbo, power is immediate. But what’s more impressive is how it just keeps on pulling as you apply throttle. Rocketing out of turn 20 and down the front straight I catch myself screaming out to the son of God himself. The power is so dramatic it straddles the line between thrilling and terrifying.

The torque curve isn’t as impressive as that of a BMW M3 or M4. Where those cars make peak torque of 406 lb-ft at just 1850 rpm, at that same engine speed the ATS-V is closer to 330 lb-ft, before climbing to its peak of 445 lb-ft at 3500 rpm.

The surge isn’t as immediate as with its M rivals, though as a result the V feels more manageable and pulls more like a naturally aspirated engine.

2016-Cadillac-ATS-V-engineThe steady and controlled power delivery is also due to the car’s electronic limited slip differential, as well as the new Performance Traction Management system. Developed from the Corvette Racing Le Mans program it ensures you’re putting down the perfect amount of power to accelerate out of every corner as fast as possible.

As for straight line speed, the sprint to 60 MPH comes in just 3.8 seconds using launch-control on the 8-speed automatic. And while the M4 tops out at an electronically limited 155 mph, this car will go all the way up to 189.

Two Performance Transmissions

The eight-speed unit can be a touch jerky on the street and feels more tuned for high-performance driving where it wowed me by seemingly always being in the right gear.

The real gem, however, is the six-speed manual.

Any stick-shift on a domestic car, no matter how luxurious, is often criticized for having long, clunky throws with a clutch pedal seemingly designed for the dual purpose of doubling your calf muscles and operating a bellows. Not here.

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The throws are reasonably short and are impressively slick. The clutch is entirely forgettable in the sense that it’s so natural you’ll never even think about it.

A rev match feature lets you do some of the work, without having to worry about the heel-toe. And while the no-lift shifting is strange to experience, having zero interruption in power between shifts lets you make the most of the engine’s boost.

As for the brakes, they’re six piston front and four piston rear Brembo units. Cadillac doesn’t offer carbon ceramic units, which may surprise some, but I was dared to make them fade and I failed. Nearly identical to those found on the 500 lb heavier CTS-V, they’re the next best thing to a Neti Pot for clearing out your sinuses.

Built-in Data Recorder

performance-data-recorderOne gotta-have-it feature is the available performance data recorder that lets you record hi-def videos with an optional data overlay. The info can then be analyzed to help improve you driving, or simply used to brag on Facebook.

But of all the new V’s features what impresses most is the responsiveness. Yes, that includes the engine, but it’s really the steering and chassis that make this car so impressive.

The standard ATS structure, already the most nimble in its class, has been tweaked significantly to deal with all this power, adding 25 percent greater chassis stiffness. Combine that with thicker sway bars, tighter springs and some sticky Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires and when you flick it, this car turns. But more importantly, even the tiniest of changes you feel, as the car tells you you’re in control.

The Cadillac ATS -V is a scalpel. It just looks like a broadsword.

Styling as Sharp as its Handling

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Speaking of its looks, it’s hard not to be impressed. While the standard ATS is undoubtedly an impressive car to drive, it stands out like khakis and a navy blazer at a Midwest business meeting. That is to say, not at all.

But here almost every panel has been replaced. There’s a new splitter, wider fenders, new side skirts, a rear diffuser and even a carbon fiber hood. A dramatic improvement in styling, every change also delivers advantages when it comes to aerodynamics, weight and cooling.

SEE ALSO: 2015 BMW M4 Review

And if that’s not dramatic enough for you, the optional carbon fiber package adds a longer polished carbon fiber splitter and bigger rear diffuser as well as carbon fiber rocker panel accent and a taller rear spoiler.

About the only disappointing thing, other than the $5,000 cost of the carbon fiber package, is the rather simple color palette – especially compared to the gold or baby blue offered by BMW.

Performance Without Compromise

2016-Cadillac-ATS-V-group-02While amazing on the track, the third-generation magnetic ride shocks continue to offer incredible street dynamics, ensuring this hard edged sports sedan isn’t punishing to drive.

Those shocks are now 40 percent faster at reacting meaning that at 60 MPH the car is calculating the ideal shock setting for every inch of the road. Literally!

And with a sexier body, let’s not forget that it’s what’s inside that counts. After all, this is where you spend your time.

SEE ALSO: 2013 Cadillac ATS First Drive

Unfortunately some of the critiques of the ATS are still preset like the odd half-digital half-analog gauges, the CUE touchscreen that’s still not as responsive as your smartphone, plus the back seats is cramped. Then again you might not care about that in a 446-HP performance car.

On the plus side there’s a massively thick rimmed steering wheel, beautiful matte carbon fiber detailing and some incredible 16-way adjustable Recaro seats that let you adjust the seat and side bolsters.

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The Verdict: 2016 Cadillac ATS-V Review

The ATS-V’s capability is undeniable, though perhaps more important is its engaging feel.

It’s also priced at about $2,000 less than a comparable BMW M3 or M4, with sedans starting at $61,460 and coupes from $63,660 (prices include destination).

True, it doesn’t have the recognition of a German brand on its side but at he same time, if you love cars and performance, chances are you also love being unique, and the ATS-V certainly stands out.

Recently Cadillac’s new boss detailed an aggressive plan to roll out a next generation of models, but said he doesn’t intend to seriously take the fight to Germany until after 2020. Having just tested the new ATS-V we’d say Cadillac has already come out swinging.

Discuss this story at our Cadillac ATS Forum

  • Felix James

    Everyone keeps saying the Cadillac whatever is better than a comparable BMW, but still, no one buys them.

  • Hunter

    I don’t know where you live, but they’re everywhere here in Texas. Can’t wait to see more ATS-Vs on the street too.

  • Disqus11111

    Key word – Texas. In Houston and Dallas the Germans rule.

  • roundthings

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
    Cadillac needs to make the regular sedans with these grills. Leave off the spoiler and funky hood and you have a car that looks loads better than the basic ATS.
    Same goes with the CTS. The black mesh grill looks good so use it on ALL the models.

  • roundthings

    In addition, CUE needs buttons and knobs and that dash does not look like it belongs in a luxury car

  • Jeff T

    Your very right, I always think the same thing. I think it has to do with the buyers in this market lease their cars and Cadillac doesn’t offer as good as lease program.

  • John Zofko III

    The dash, steering wheel is basically the same design as the Equinox, La Crosse, and so many other models out there… GM interior design is nice IMHO, BUT getting stale again by being so generic across the brands… Basically it is like they have 2 or 3 layouts, then they incorporate them into each car or truck without not much variation…

  • John Zofko III

    I did not say it looked exactly like it, it basically is the same, they changed buttons, colors, but the layout is generically the same. It shows a lack of imagination…

  • ambrose19

    I was expecting the ATS-V to be an upgrade to the ATS 3.6 but am very disappointed that they dropped the AWD one of my favorite features. It minimizes tire spin and maximizes acceleration off the line on both dry and snowy roads.

  • cmann_97

    That’s probably because the ATS-V and CTS-V are not produced in large numbers. I have had both M3’s and CTS-V’s. The Caddy gets the nod for me!

  • Are you just looking for things to pick on? The Equinox has a 4 spoke steering wheel and dual pod gauge cluster while the ATS has a 3 spoke steering wheel and a single broad cluster with center speedometer.

    About the only thing that is similar between the two is the location of the HVAC vents on either side of the nav screen…. so yea… TOTALLY alike!

  • Mark S

    On the ATS and CTS cars, out side of the V and Vsport editions, has Caddie done a good enough job of shedding their old peoples car image. They had a good go for sure with some of the ads in 2014, but just not sure how many 30’s and 40’s German and Japanese luxury brand shoppers are cross shopping Caddie.

  • Mark S

    Love the ATS coupe shape – they have evolved and smooth the design, still Caddie, but not as harsh. Some great driving reviews being noted for this car in the last week. The gauge cluster and cue seem to be the main negatives. Not gonna get upset with leg room issues in a coup.

  • Tre Deuce

    So bad, it is almost a deal breaker. GM/Caddy design needs to take a new look at MB dashes. Hardly anyone does it better then MB. And only the New Mustang has a great dash/stack for an American car. Cadillac should look at it, too.

  • Mark S

    Like the Audi gauge clusters and interiors in general, but the new TTS is amazing, they have done the virtual display the right way. It works when you have the right hardware and UI. This left them loads of space to go minimalist and what they did with the air vents (turbine design with LED displays in the center) is special and I think may start a trend.

  • OO7

    Looks ‘OK’ at best, the interior is Chevy and that exterior wing……….? For $2000 more you can have a true, proven quality performance car with the BMW M4.
    I’m sorry, but the $$$ they are asking for these, is why they are piling up on dealers lots. Cadillac needs to go back to it’s roots. I loved the Cadillac’s of years past, these new ones, not so much.

  • Greg Morgan

    Here,Here! You said the magic word…”going back to its roots!” I am a traditional Cadillac buyer who refuses to purchase this new crap. I don’t care if it goes from zero to 100 mph in a nanosecond, I don’t care about the tracks at Brooklands…where’s the luxury car? Where is that formidable “Standard of the world?” They are dazzling people with science and baffling them with bullshit! At least make a product that isn’t recalled annually…Cadillac is so busy riding the coattails of BMW and Mercedes they forgot to at least establish an identity…those German import luxury “saloons” learned everything they know from Cadillacs of the past…when will they learn? Will they end up going belly-up like Olds and Pontiac? The dealer’s inventories will soon stock the entire earth’s population!

  • Greg Morgan

    Do you know why no one buys them? Check out their reliability ratings and their being recalled annually with horrendous problems. I say Cadillac needs to build luxury cars and leave this going from zero to 100 mph in a nanosecond to the imports! Where’s the luxury sedan?

  • Greg Morgan

    That is because of Shanghai GM! The Asians are building Cadillacs in China…they do not want American built CTS, XTS and others because of their build quality, I agree with them, American built Cadillacs stink to high heaven. I say, leave the Matchbox Cadillacs in China…where’s the luxury sedan? I am not old and I want an American-inspired Cadillac. Until then, I will drive a Rolls Royce!

  • Greg Morgan

    You guys are forgetting how fast these Cadillacs depreciate…and them being recalled every year! Look at their value…it’s stunning to see how fast they go from showroom to junk yard in one svelte swoop…

  • Greg Morgan

    To the Editors: How much are they paying you or what knd of perks are you getting to write stories like this about these cars? You NEVER once mention the residual value AFTER the sale. You do not mention how much they depreciate, nor their recall…why don’t you mention ALL of the details and not just to paint a rosey picture? How much will this car be worth AFTER it is driven off the showroom floor? I am sick and tired of reading stories about how nice they are…give the readers ALL of the details expecially the long wait in the dealer’s service departments…I can give explicit examples as I have friends who have “hard heads” that purchased crap like this and are now suffering the consequences of the reliabilty AND trying to trade them in to get rid of them…it isn’t easy, they found out the hard way…

  • Mark S

    Intellichoice has the ATS has “average” for 5 year costs (this calc includes depreciation). Not as good as some, say BMW, but not as good as others. Hopefully Caddie can turn this around one day. That said, the 5 depreciation is based on MSRP, but there is plenty of incentives and haggle with slow sales of the ATS and CTS at the moment.

  • Greg Morgan

    There’s a reason those CTS’s are in the dealer’s inventory…Google Cadillac CTS proiblems and you get myriad issues that the general public doesn’t even know about. The public is so busy being blinded by what they think are good looks when in fact a junkpile is underneath ready and willing to drain the old checking account like a sponge. Cadillac quality is not even close to the German imports they they think they are competing with. I have purchased their crap so I know the drill. I am driving my Rolls Royce. This is what you can have when you do not purchase Cadillacs! Ask any new CTS owner how much time they have spent behind the wheel of a loaner while their Crapillac is being repaired! And that new CT6 is an absolute embarrassment to the American flag! It’s more CTS strrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrretched over a larger platform. It is like taking last weeks left-overs out of the fridge and adding colorful veggies and a little oregano and calling it something else…America is not amused. Cadillac should stick to the luxury car business and become “The Standard of the world” instead of riding the coattails of German imports!

  • Mark S

    The Alpha platform?

  • Bob Scratchit

    I will stick with my CTSV. We had a 335xi and I hated it. Buggy electronics, high pressure fuel regulator that has a high propensity for failure among other issues. I test drove 2 M cars. I was not impressed. Give me American muscle any day.

  • 2011CTSV

    You understand the ATS-V is not on sale yet, right? How in the hell are they supposed to calculate depreciation or residual value on a car that has not even entered the market yet? Jesus, it’s not rocket science.

    If you want to know about residual value, go look up used pricing for the 2009-2015 CTS-V. It holds its value better than any other car in its class. Go look at JD Power, Cadillac has been in the top 5 for reliability 2 years in a row now.

  • 2011CTSV

    They don’t depreciate fast at all. In fact they hold their value longer than any other car in their class. You want recalls? In the same period of time, Cadillac had 81 recalls while BMW had 320 recalls. You must think it’s still the 1980s or something.

  • Bobby B

    Mustang ??? You just gave away your crackhead status….

  • Bobby B

    Had a 2013 M5 and it was definitely not as fast even for a as a 2011 CTSV coupe. The Caddie handled better also and don’t get me started in the gaudy cheap flat black plastic all over Bmw interior ! I was so embarrassed with German junk I wasted money on ,I was thinking what in the hell do all these brain lobotomized dorks buy theses glowing eyeballed pontiac looking cars ? Don’t really care…. Im a V owner now. Bmws owners all live in the past when this co. was the best but now mediocre . The truth is a hard pill to swallow.

    Cadillac is headed in the right direction but if they can’t think outside the box instead of inside like they’ve been doing even until now with the new changes, Im afraid MB will crush them into nothingness. Its time for Cadillac to take off the gloves …. If they regress any further, Ill be a C or a S class MB owner . Would even consider Bwm, its too cheap looking.

  • Greg Morgan

    You’re right… you’re right…you’re absolutely right you’ve solved Cadillac’s depreciation problem from right behind your monitor…why not take the rest of the day off! Ok Mr “I’m still back in the 1980s,” you evidently haven’t bought one of these lately…and then tried to trade it in have you? I USED to trade Cadillacs every other year until the depreciation ATE me alive! Add this and the fact that one must have an extended service contract because the repair costs are obscene and what do you end up with in your garage? A money pit that isn’t worth all the repairs you put into it! The new Cadillacs are recalled annually! When was the last time you tried to trade one of the newer models in?

  • Greg Morgan

    I was talking in general Mr know it all, go out and buy that crap! Or better yet, GOOGLE the Cadillac CTS-V Problems and see what you come up with! Do you realize that you can be driving a Rolls Royce with what you shell out in a mere Cadillac? I will drive My Rolls Royce while you squander all your WORDS on this worthless brand! Anybody that USED to drive a Cadillac can see where I am coming from. Why WASTE money on a domestic when one can be driving a Rolls Royce? Case closed…next question? (Sure JD Powers is ok, but you go out and buy that crap? You evidently have not done your home work)

  • LSA-V

    BMW builds all of their X models in the USA. 90% of X series demand is in the USA. That is why they are built here. China is a huge market that is why GM build is China. Has nothing to do with build quality preferences. Manufacturing processes for mass produced autos are virtually the same in the US as they are are in Germany…or China for that matter. Build quality is controlled by the process. I own and 2013 X-5 M Sport and also have a 2011 CTS-V coupe. The V has never been recalled and has had zero problems. The X-5 has had one major recall for replacement of injectors, vacuum pump, air lines, and battery. That doesn’t mean I would never buy another BMW. I would certainly buy another Cadillac. By the way, the V is holding its value better than the X-5 M-Sport

  • 2011CTSV

    What depreciation problems? You saying Cadillacs depreciate badly doesn’t change the fact that they don’t. Not only have I bought one of these lately, I still own it. How about you? Where’s yours? Where’s the first hand experience that you’re basing your opinion on? Oh right, you don’t have any.

    You are so full of shit it’s coming out your ears. You don’t even need to own a Cadillac to be able to look up depreciation, something you clearly haven’t done. And service costs are obscene? Now I know you’re talking about German cars, not Cadillac. There’s a reason that conventional wisdom says never to own a German car out of warranty. You have obviously never had to pay to fix a BMW or Mercedes or Audi.

    Mine has not only not been a money pit, but it’s been reliable, and it’s depreciated much better than any comparable German car. With almost 80k miles on it it’s still worth more than half its original MSRP, not something you can say for the German cars. Have YOU looked it up? Doesn’t look like you have.

  • 2011CTSV

    Oh, in general? Really? “You NEVER once mention the residual value AFTER the sale.” That sounds pretty specific to me. Of course they didn’t mention after the sale you moron. It’s NOT ON SALE YET. This is not a difficult concept to understand, yet it seems to be giving you all kinds of problems.

    And which Rolls Royce, exactly, do you think you can buy for the price of a Cadillac? Name a model. I’m not sure why you think your bullshit is going to fly with me, but it’s not. Name it.

    Bringing up Cadillac in the PAST makes you look like an idiot. Here is Cadillac NOW:

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    To answer your question, you can’t drive a rolls royce for the price of a domestic. you would have to be intensely stupid to believe that. Or maybe just really bad at math. Case closed, next question? And of course you have not done your homework which is why it’s so easy to destroy your arguments.

  • Greg Morgan

    I have one in my garage what do you drive? Read the CTS-V problems I posted links below

  • 2011CTSV

    What CTS-V problems have I had so far? Can you tell me? Go ahead, do it. I’ll wait. And by the way, how’s depreciation on my car? Why don’t you tell me what that is.

    And seriously, you’re not driving a rolls royce and talking about problems with other cars, are you? Really? Rolls Royce, one of the most notoriously unreliable cars on the planet? One of the most heavily depreciating cars in existence?

    And you didn’t answer my question. Which rolls royce do you thin you can buy for the price of a Cadillac? Still waiting for your answer. Are you ever going to provide one? Or do you think talking out of your ass is going to fly here?

  • 2011CTSV

    Nope, my supercharger is fine, after almost 80k miles. It was just taken apart recently to look at it, then put back together and put right back on the engine. Try again.

  • 2011CTSV

    That’s the first gen CTS-V, I have a 2nd gen CTS-V. Is this seriously the best you can do? That’s really pathetic.

  • Greg Morgan

    oops! or can you read the replies below? Next question? I will be posting more :since I am so full of (expletive)

  • 2011CTSV

    Well at least you realize you are full of shit. That’s helpful.

  • 2011CTSV

    As I already told you, I haven’t had any supercharger problem, so you will need to try again rather than continuing to post about the supercharger over and over again. You don’t come off as very smart when you can’t understand simple English.

  • Greg Morgan

    as they said back in high school since you have a sophomoric state of mind…takes one to know one…so my links to your stupid replies got your got huh?

  • 2011CTSV

    You’re not very good at insults. And I already replied to all your replies. Maybe you should go look again, dumbass. And maybe you should try answering the questions I asked you instead of ignoring them. When you ignore my questions it’s not doing much for your credibility.

  • Greg Morgan

    well…

  • Greg Morgan

    aw poocums…no snappy retort or are you still reading about your CTS?

  • Greg Morgan

    I drive a white Rolls Royce Phantom I forgot to mention that during your rant….it is pictured as my avatar

  • Greg Morgan

    forgot to mention also, I have had my Phantom refreshed by Mansory, I haven’t had the time to switch avatars yet…it is gorgeous! Since I stopped patronizing cadillac every year I was able to drive this car. I tried to tell you before you got your panties all in a bunch. What I saved in depreciation alone, I was able to first drive an S600 then traded to the Phantom. STOP wasting your money on domestics and save. Wait until Cadillac presents a Flagship…the “Standard of the World” then buy it…

  • Greg Morgan

    the proof is in the recalls Mr Know it all, each of your stupid replies shows: 1) you are so stupid you couldn’t find your own ass with both hands AND your ass 2) all of your taste is in your mouth 3) you need to go back and take a few post graduate courses (if you got your MBA) 4) I got your goat…thanks

  • Greg Morgan

    nope…not at all. YOU are the one stuck in a domestic car! I am driving the epitome of luxury, and if you put your glasses on and read down further into the recalls and the owner reviews you will see that your handy dandy CTS is recalled annually for the same things! DUH! Again, you are the one stuck in a domestic piece of crap as I ride in style with a Mansory refreshed Phantom! Put that in your tail pipe and smoke it chump!

  • Greg Morgan

    read further: P-H-A-N-T-O-M did you get that far in the sanitarium yet?

  • Greg Morgan

    oh yes you can drive a Rolls Royce for the money you shell out in a domestic plus the repairs…ok try this: try to trade your mere 2011 CTS on an Aston Martin or a Maserati or an S600 what I used to drive…you may get the documentary fees if you are lucky. Better yet since you are still driving mere domestics…take it to your local Cadillac dealer and try to trade it…then see how much it is worth! Hurry…before it’s lights out in your sanitarium!

  • Greg Morgan

    YOU are the one stuck in a 4 year old domestic….that’s pathetic

  • Greg Morgan

    Check out the new Mercedes-Maybach S600, it debuts shortly as a 2016 model. It is a hand-crafted Benz with quality and features that could be compared to the Bentley Mulsanne. The Mercedes-Maybach is really really nice. I went to a preview in New York while staying with friends in the Hamptons and let me tell you…I was impressed! I used to be a Cadillac owner but they turned me off, I like a BIG car with stature, this is why I switched. For all the money spent trading Cadillacs I was able to go first class with a Rolls Royce.

  • Greg Morgan

    You are funny, I must admit! You have the mentality of you computer monitor, but it least it has intellinside to make it work. You are stuck in the world of superficial automotive crap and will not admit it! Especially your remark regarding a Rolls Royce, a Rolls is like a Chateau Lafite Rothschild…it gets better with age…

  • Frank Orlando

    Wow Greg. So angry and so uninformed. You have a Phantom that cost you about the same as a new Cadillac? Can I see your new $60,000 P-H-A-N-T-O-M? Got pictures? How old is that thing? Last time I checked they started at $412,000. Even a 10 year old one sells for around $145,000. So do you see the flaw in your logic Mr. Angry Morgan? Haters gotta hate I guess. makes you look foolish. You have a number of people giving you solid factual responses to your scattered and repetetive concerns about depreciation and reliability yet you just blow by them and keep asking the same dumb questions. I guess your plan is to not let facts interfere with your rant, eh?

  • Greg Morgan

    Dear Frank…dear naive Frank, tell us…do you need your GPS just to find your computer?

  • Greg Morgan

    to add to your moronic reply, I am banking the difference between a mere domestic and a tasteful luxury car…besides, Rolls Royce doesn’t
    design their cars to be traded annually out of respect to previous owners…how would you like it if you spent in excess of $400,000 for a car and then the next year the same manufacturer comes out with a new and improved version? Rolls Rolls builds collectibles, you too, showed your lack of knowing the brand. I am not a hater, I drove Cadillac for many years until their quality, fit & finish, not to mention the depreciation turned me off! I don’t need to trade my Rolls every year like you Caddy owners! I recently had my Phantom refreshed by Mansory. I haven’t had time for photos…you see…I sell cars that you cannot even pronounce. Tell us…do you need your GPS just to find the room your computer is in?

  • Greg Morgan

    re·pet·i·tive oops! next time you try to be ‘smart’ use your spell check!

  • Greg Morgan

    You also do not read with understanding! NOWHERE did I say my Phantom cost $60,000! If so, cut and paste it for us. What I said was, I SAVED in repair bills and depreciation! As a matter of fact I still have one of my Cadillacs I use for the ‘beater’, it is the last Cadillac I will own until the brand comes out with something like the Cadillac Sixteen…you are the one with “sour-grapes” dude!

  • Greg Morgan

    and for this forum’s sake, who died and made you world’s administrator? I don’t have to PROVE anything to you. Until you fall into one of the categories of the three “F’S” (financing, feeding, and f*cking) I couldn’t give a tinker’s damn as to what you think or feel!

  • Greg Morgan

    and another fact you overlooked Mr Smarta$$ you do the math: The Cadillac DeVilles I USED to purchased went from $45,000 to $55,000, now take that times three or four.. Yes, now do you see what I meant when I said I SAVED that money and bought a RR? It is easy to do…just simply save the money instead of keep spending on useless domestics. That is what I meant…save the monthly payments, and just keep chucking away the old cash and before you know it you too can buy a RR! So next time, it’s better to remain silent and appear stupid rather than opening the old mouth removing all doubt…

  • Take a breather, no need to get all excited.

  • This is probably the first decend-looking post-wreath Cadillac. The front actually looks really nice, as does the interior (with the exception of the stupid radio), but the back end looks kind of scrunched up. Now if they could just get the wreath back on there…

  • Greg Morgan

    Aston Martin One-77…Rolls Royce Phantom Series II…Mercedes-Maybach…Bentley Mulsanne…Bentley Flying Spur…Porsche Panamera…Bentley Brooklands…LaFerrari…Ferrari F12berlinetta…Lamborghini Aventador…Bentley Exp 10 Speed…Bentley Mulsanne Speed…Rolls Royce Wraith…Rolls Royce Phantom Drophead…Rolls Royce Park Ward…

  • Greg Morgan

    2015 Rolls Royce Phantom Limelight Collection…Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport Vitesse…Brabus tuned S-Class…Mansory Carbonado…”Q” by Aston Martin…Aston Martin V12 Vantage S…Maserati GranCabrio MC…Maserati Ghibli…Maserati Gran Turismo MC Stradale…Maserati Quattroporte…Lamborghini Asterion LPI 910-4…Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4…?

  • Greg Morgan

    The cars below are what excites me…

  • Greg Morgan

    BMW 760 Li Individual…BMW 850i…excites me

  • Greg Morgan

    Cadillac Sixteen…excites me

  • Greg Morgan

    Shall we go vintage? 1957 Chrysler 300C…1957 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham…Chrysler Imperial LeBaron…Cadillac Fleetwood Series 60 Special Brougham…1956 Continental MK II…1967 Cadillac Fleetwood Eldorado…1967 Dodge Coronet RT…are what excites me!

  • Greg Morgan

    …Chrysler Max Wedge, or better still Chrysler 426 Hemi…no Pontiac’s 421 Super Duty…decisions…decisions…decisions

  • Greg Morgan

    nope…V12 Enzo Ferrari, I cannot make up my mind

  • Greg Morgan

    Contemporary classics? 1968 Buick Electra 225 Custom Limited, 1972 Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Regency Tiffany Edition, 1969 Pontiac Bonneville Brougham…1970 Cadillac DeVille convertible…1965 Pontiac Bonneville Embassy…1976 Buick Electra Limited Park Avenue…Rolls Royce Camargue…1966 Pontiac GTO Royal Bobcat…1967 Pontiac Grand Prix Convertible…excites me

  • Greg Morgan

    Bentley Arnage Final Series…excites me

  • Greg Morgan

    Porsche 911 Slantnose…excites me

  • Greg Morgan

    Volkswagen V12 Phaeton…excites me

  • Greg Morgan

    1959 Cadillac Eldorado Seville…really excites me

  • Greg Morgan

    A Bentley Continental GT excites me to orgasm…

  • Greg Morgan

    …drop the top on a Rolls Royce Corniche…excites me

  • Greg Morgan

    the Bentley Mulsanne Speed Saloon is the fastest production 4-door in the world…that excites me, but…lest we forget…the Brabus tuned S-Class is also one of the world’s fastest 4-doors too…decisions…decisions…decisions

  • Greg Morgan

    …sorry, plastic Cadillacs are just a figment of one’s imagination, they go from showroom to junkyard in one svelte swoop…

  • Greg Morgan

    excuse me…excuse me…those words are from them not me! Read about Shanghai GM and their exquisite manufacturing processes! They have the US beat hands down! You evidently have not been keeping up with China! They opened 5 new Rolls Royce showrooms over there…look at the Shanghai Auto Show, if you notice…the spotlight is on China. The new Lincoln Continental Concept has a rear suite option that is mentioned in the news aimed at them because they enjoy being chauffeured! They no longer build the version of our STS, they called it the SLS, it was an extended version of our model just so they could have the extra room in the rear seat while they are being driven. They buy the Rolls Royce Phantom EWB for the rear seat business suites! Shanghai GM is building cars we never see…and let me tell you, they are sweet! Check them out, just Google Shanghai GM, check out the Buick Royaum, it is a version of our Park Avenue…that makes our version look ugly! Check out how fast China is growing in the automobile segment…check out the quality, fit, and finish. Look at the Chinese versions of your beloved Cadillacs and really get sick! They even make the XTS over there! And…to the depreciation issue…just buy this new Cadillac crap and check its value a year after it is in your garage (or service bay which ever comes first). Seriously…check out Shanghai GM!

  • Greg Morgan

    Seriously, I am not slamming Cadillac just for the fun of it, I have EXPERIENCED the freakin loaners while what I paid for is being serviced, I have friends now that are going through grief behind the reliability fit & finish…they wouldn’t listen to me they had to “buy American” and now, they have loaners. One friend has a Cadillac CTS-V…that’s on its second transmission and it doesn’t even have 25,000 miles on it. I love cadillac, I was raised in a household where my dad traded Cadillacs every year, but those are in a different arena all together. Ask the people that got stung by those freakin Northstar engines and the “head-gasket loose-bolt syndrome.” The Cadillacs they make now are crap! I will go back to them when they make a real luxury sedan. I like a large luxurious automobile, there are some of us that could care less about going from zero to 1,000 mph in a nanosecond…we want CADILLAC LUXURY…WE WANT THE STANDARD OF THE WORLD IN OUR GARAGE, we do not want the biodegradable crap they make today!

  • Greg Morgan

    Shanghai GM

  • Greg Morgan

    The road to profit is paved through customer satisfaction…if we, as Americans would STOP buying their crap all together, this would send a message to the big-wigs that make all the decisions at Cadillac, they would have to turn completely around in their endeavors and make a REAL Cadillac! Remember, every time you purchase that crap, it is a vote in the market place…the consumer is king! We have the authority to make or break an organization! Boycott the crap and watch Detroit “snap-to” FAST –

  • Greg Morgan

    I forgot to mention my one friend who lost the front wheel of her CTS on the way to visit relatives while on her vacation. Thank God she wasn’t killed in that crap. I warned her but she bought it any way because “it was cute”!! I need to bring my buds in on this forum that have experienced grief behind these cars…

  • Greg Morgan

    …you need to quit

  • Greg Morgan

    The Mercedes-Benz is so advanced, it doesn’t have a single light bulb in it. LED mood enhancing ambience lighting is really sweet, especially at night. Drive the S600. it has to be driven to appreciate its luxurious stature. It makes anything Cadillac builds look like an elegant puddle-jumper!

  • Greg Morgan

    2. Cadillac XTS #2 on the worst new car buys!

    Tell the truth we find the big and benign full-size front-drive XTS sedan to be something of a guilty pleasure. Unfortunately, a boulevard cruiser like this falls short in today’s ultra-sophisticated luxury-car market. Consumer Reports cites the XTS as being among the industry’s worst values, and we think the Chevrolet Impala offers equivalent accommodations for less money. The biggest Caddy also gets low marks for initial quality and performance from J.D. Power and a below-average resale value rating from ALG.

  • Greg Morgan

    Cadillac has wrestled for more than a year to shrink inventories of unsold ATS and CTS models. In mid-December it shuttered the Lansing, Michigan, plant that builds the ATS and CTS for six weeks. The factory reopened January 26 on a single shift with a greatly reduced production schedule.

    Even with the production cuts, Cadillac and its dealers had about four months’ worth of unsold CTS sedans and six months’ worth of unsold ATS sedans on hand at the end of January, a Reuters analysis showed.

  • Greg Morgan

    Cadillac has wrestled for more than a year to shrink inventories of unsold ATS and CTS models. In mid-December it shuttered the Lansing, Michigan, plant that builds the ATS and CTS for six weeks. The factory reopened January 26 on a single shift with a greatly reduced production schedule.

    Even with the production cuts, Cadillac and its dealers had about four months’ worth of unsold CTS sedans and six months’ worth of unsold ATS sedans on hand at the end of January, a Reuters analysis showed.

  • 2011CTSV

    You’re confusing value for money with residual value. Yeah, that’s pretty much what I expected from you, I didn’t think you were smart enough to tell the difference.

  • 2011CTSV

    Say the guy who has to lie about owning a rolls royce on the internet.

  • 2011CTSV

    Plus what repairs? Which rolls royce are you talking about? Be specific, not vague. And I already know what it’s worth, because KBB exists. I know you’re too stupid to look up what that is, but just trust me.

    So how much did your Rolls Royce cost? Was it under $60k? It would have to be in order to be able to buy one for the same price as a CTS-V. And the Rolls still performing accelerates, brakes and handles worse than the CTS-V, despite costing so much more money. I mean you would have to be some kind of idiot to buy one of those, especially with its reliability issues and massive depreciation.

  • 2011CTSV

    The Phantom costs $500,000, and you think you can buy one for the price of a Cadillac?

    Well thanks for proving you’re a complete fucking idiot.

  • 2011CTSV

    A domestic car that doesn’t have any of the problems you think it has. Hmm. How many times have you had to bring your rolls back to the dealer for repairs? And why don’t you tell me how much my car has depreciated, like I asked you to multiple times? Is there any particular reason you are avoiding doing what I asked you to do?

    Your Phantom is slower, handles worse and performs worse in every way compared to my V, not to mention it’s less reliable and depreciates so fast you can actually watch the money slipping away. And you’re proud of owning that piece of crap? Really?

  • 2011CTSV

    Even if you patronized Cadillac every year for 10 years it still wouldn’t cost as much as a Phantom. So now we know that in addition to you being a liar, you are also very bad at math. Not really surprising I guess. And of course the Phantom depreciates faster than any Cadillac and because it costs so much more you are literally losing significant amounts of money every single day that you own it.

    Really, I mean this kind of super basic math is not hard.

  • 2011CTSV

    “intellinside”. What the hell is intellinside? I mean I’m assuming you meant “Intel inside” but you didn’t know how to spell Intel, but then there’s the part about you talking about a monitor, and of course a monitor doesn’t have Intel inside. I mean any idiot knows that.

    A Rolls is like throwing money down the toilet. You get mediocre performance for an astronomical amount of money, and you would have to be catastrophically stupid to do that.

  • Greg Morgan

    You are funny! You are the one stuck in a worthless domestic and each time you answer means YOU are the one with sour grapes! Actually…do you need your GPS to find your computer?

  • Greg Morgan

    birdbrain you are the one stuck in a worthless domestic

  • Greg Morgan

    U R stupid! My Phantom is Mansory refreshed. Look it up chump and have your face crunched. Besides…you are stuck in a worthless domestic!

  • Greg Morgan

    At Brotherton Cadillac Buick GMC in the Seattle suburb of Renton, Washington, owner Brad Brotherton is offering 2014 ATS sedans at up to $12,000 off a sticker price that starts at about $33,215. In St. Peters, Missouri, near St. Louis, Bommarito Cadillac was cutting as much as $17,500 off the price of a 2014 CTS sedan, which starts at about $45,345.

    “Cadillac made a commitment to relieve dealer inventories by incentivizing” the leftover 2014 sedans, Brad Brotherton told Reuters. “Dealers had been asking for that for a long time.”

    The fire sale marks a setback for Cadillac’s strategy to challenge BMW and Daimler AG’s Mercedes-Benz brand head-on in the luxury sedan market. But while an American Cadillac owner will happily consider a BMW or a Mercedes, drivers of those famous German cars just won’t put a Cadillac on their shopping list.

    Cadillac has wrestled for more than a year to shrink inventories of unsold ATS and CTS models. In mid-December it shuttered the Lansing, Michigan, plant that builds the ATS and CTS for six weeks. The factory reopened January 26 on a single shift with a greatly reduced production schedule.

    Even with the production cuts, Cadillac and its dealers had about four months’ worth of unsold CTS sedans and six months’ worth of unsold ATS sedans on hand at the end of January, a Reuters analysis showed.

    CAN YOU READ THIS CHUMP?

  • Greg Morgan

    General Motors’ Cadillac division is reportedly continuing to encounter trouble selling excessive inventory of ATS and CTS vehicles.

    The company’s recent sales report showed a 22-percent drop in sales for the ATS from 2013 to 2014, while the larger CTS slid by nearly four percent. Dealers are said to have an average of four months of unsold CTS inventory and six months of ATS supply still sitting on lots, according to a Reuters report.
    Lackluster sales of both models has been blamed for production interruptions at the Lansing Grand River assembly facility. Recent reports suggest the company is preparing for a long-term slowdown, likely eliminating approximately 450 jobs as the plant transitioned to a single shift last month.

    “To thine oneself be true”. Hamlet. BMW,Mercedes,Bentley,Jaguar,Audi,and all of the legends ,build on there traditions. Cadillac staff,obviously has no sense of who they are. In an attempt to be fresh,they forgot what made Cadillac a legend,before GM ruined it,and most of their company with,badge engineering. Cadillac is about making a statement. Bold,controversial,contemporary ,yet baroque. Nobody wants a small Cadillac . The Escalade boom proves this. I see a looming failure in the company. Everybody I speak to,even Cadillac owners ( I grew up,with the car,owned them,and associate with current,and former owners)) has total contempt for the company,and product line -up. The small ‘sport ‘Cadillac’s will continue to sit. The Germans Autobahn bred cars ,like this will always master them,in reality,and perception. I saw the add “DARE GREATLY”,on You Tube,and had high hopes. My first reaction was great,but upon further watching,was disgusted. Its a nightmare ! A tiny man jumping,thunderstorms,and dreadlocks . A wailing Edith Pief. The robot named “Ct 6”, comes splashing through the rain, and looks like an overstuffed Infiniti-Audi combo! Or maybe, a nerds idea of a future car,circa 1962,without the Cadillac class of that era. Not even a hint of the Ciel,or Elmiraj . Time is running out for Cadillac. It should be sold off to somebody who cares,or close. Sorry

  • Greg Morgan

    You are the one stuck in a worthless domestic:

    Let’s see- sales down. Could the jingle “My Bitch just bought a new Cadillac” have anything to do to antagonizing female buyers? Could the price/value ratio be further off? How about the lack of power in anything but their super high priced V series. GM has put absolutely NO effort into selling what could be a goldmine- if priced right (NO- the SS)- yet pushes the ATS, CTS….I would buy Lexus, Infinity, BMW before Caddy…

    First – Johan De Nysschen should consider lowering the MSRP on the Cadillac ATS and Cadillac CTS. I know he want to compete with BMW directly with styling techniques, innovations and craftsmanship, but why price a Cadillac similar to a well known brand like BMW (who has dominated the luxury car brand followed by Mercedes-Benz); in fact, I would spend my money on a BMW 5-series than a Cadillac CTS, which is very nice but not nice over a BMW.

    With that said, his boss, Mary Barra, should force at least a 13 percent price decrease on ATS and CTS to pull-in more customers and offer a gift just for a test drive to ensure their customers will be treated as a luxury owner should be treated. I hope one day Nysschen will let go of his ego and do the right thing and lower the prices on the cars.

    At some point you have to realize that people on here aren’t buying Cadillacs or aren’t buying enough of them for Cadillac to care. Cadillac listened to Car and Driver and others and built these sports sedans and now they can’t sell them.

    XTS sells better than the CTS and ATS from what I saw someone write here???? Sales talk, arm chair quarterbacking walks. End of Story.

    They’ve proven that they can build the equal of a BMW on track, now it is time to focus on quality and everything else. Keep the V Series cars to compete with the AMGs/M/RS/F cars of the world, but the basic CTS doesn’t need to out handle a 535i, but it does need to out lux it and be well made as a Benz or Lexus and have intelligent interior design like an Audi. Handling brilliance alone doesn’t cut it as they’re now finding out. Cadillacs need to be big luxury machines that acquit themselves well on the road, but give the feeling of quality and substance like a Benz does. That is what sells. Not some dumb magazine comparison about handling.

    Listening to all that talk got them into this predicament. Most of the people who complained about how a Cadillac handled back then still wouldn’t buy a Cadillac today. Ouch.

    My problem with the XTS is that is cheaply made and it feels like it from the moment you sit in it. You can’t based a 65K luxury car on an Impala.

    The raw goods are there (ATS, CTS) but whats missing the one thing GM has always botched, refinement. If they could make both models bigger, since everyone seems to complain about their interior space, keep them light, and make them more luxurious (and fix CUE) they would be onto something. Then price them below the Germans, problem solved IMO.

    Who is going to drop 70K on a V6 Cadillac? GM is so dumb and now just plain stubborn. The priced that junk XLR at like 75K and it flopped. You can’t buy (price) your way into prestige, it has to be earned. Cadillac isn’t nearly there yet to charge the same prices as the Germans.

    A lot of people seem to be confused as to what makes a car drive “well” or “good”. It isn’t just handling. It is the whole feeling the car gives, i.e. substance. Cadillac should find an ideal ride/handling compromise (like Jaguar) and still with it. It doesn’t need to be the sportiest car in the segment, but a better all around product.

  • Greg Morgan

    To tell the truth we find the big and benign full-size front-drive XTS sedan to be something of a guilty pleasure. Unfortunately, a boulevard cruiser like this falls short in today’s ultra-sophisticated luxury-car market. Consumer Reports cites the XTS as being among the industry’s worst values, and we think the Chevrolet Impala offers equivalent accommodations for less money. The biggest Caddy also gets low marks for initial quality and performance from J.D. Power and a below-average resale value rating from ALG.

  • Greg Morgan

    Cadillacs are not recommended in this year’s Consumer Reports auto issue because the magazine says the marque lacks reliability.

    This despite a J.D. Power & Associates report that gave Cadillac top marks for dependability of its 5-year-old models.

    Common issues

    Some of the most common issues include oil consumption, which is well documented. Not all models were affected, though shoppers are advised to start a test-drive by checking the condition and level of the oil for signs of trouble. An issue with timing chains and/or camshafts on earlier models means that shoppers should avoid a 2008 or 2009 model without opting for extended powertrain warranty coverage as a minimum. Shoppers will want to have the brake system and rear differential inspected by a Cadillac technician, as owners have reported premature wear, and failure, of these components, respectively. Avoid a model that exhibits any signs of rough shifting or slippage from the transmission, and on board, pay special attention to the functionality of the power seats and the navigation and stereo. Other concerns include interior squeaks and rattles, especially from the rear parcel shelf, and weather stripping that creates wind noise on coupe models.

    Owners love the looks and ride of the last-generation CTS, but a range of well-documented problems mean this is a model to shop for cautiously. Opt for any extra warranty coverage available if you’re set on a last-gen CTS, or move to another model if reliability is your primary priority. Note that many used models will have a large portion of Cadillac’s lengthy factory powertrain warranty remaining.

  • Greg Morgan

    General Motors luxury brand, Cadillac, is having trouble selling its new-design ATS and CTS sedans, so the Lansing, Mich., factory that builds them is cutting one of its two work shifts to slow production and avoid a bigger glut.

    It’s the second time the plant’s been hit because the brand’s freshest cars haven’t sold well. Lansing’s Grand River factory was shut down for three weeks this summer to keep from pumping more cars into an oversupply.

    GM said late Tuesday that about 350 hourly production workers will be temporarily laid off when its Lansing Grand River plant slims down to a single shift in January.

    The plant will operate on a single shift until next year when the next-generation Chevrolet Camaro goes into production at the factory, using the underpinnings of the Caddy ATS small sedan and CTS mid-size sedan that are made at Lansing.

    (OOPS poor Cadillac)

  • Greg Morgan

    As of Oct. 1, GM had a 166-day and 161-day backlog of the ATS and CTS, respectively — well above the industry average of 64 days, said Larry Dominique, executive vice president of Santa Monica, Calif.-based auto research

    The two are the brand’s newest-design cars, meant to tackle German automakers’ best.

    It hasn’t worked, despite Caddy’s extensive development work and use of a proprietary rear-drive chassis created specifically for the cars.

  • Greg Morgan

    Review: ATS

    This car has been a lemon since about 5k miles and very disappointed with my purchase. Around 10k miles performance was awful 0-60 in about 15 seconds and I kept taking it back and finally they decided to replace the turbo at 15k miles. Still has the same problem but also shift rough and has a hesitation issue no one at the dealer can replicate. I currently own 5 GM vehicles but it maybe time to thin out my stable or at least dump GM. The dealership has been downright rude and awful and 800 Cadillac service is joke. Never calls you back and wastes your time.

  • Greg Morgan

    Cadillac’s fresh car line is considered high-class, high-quality, high-performance. But sales of the new-design sedans is definitely a low-performance matter.

    In fact, the November sales report shows that General Motors’ Cadillac cars in the U.S. drove off a cliff.

    Within two days of the November sales tally, Cadillac fired its ad agency, Detroit-basedLowe Campbell Ewald, and hired Publicis Worldwide, headquartered in Paris with offices in New York. Cadillac said Publicis has “undisputed expertise in luxury-brand building” and “will further our progress globally.”

    Cadillac’s XTS, a big sedan that was supposed to edge the brand closer to its German rivals, withered 50.3% in November. ATS, small, entry sedan intended to match theBMW 3-series, was off 33.7%.

    And the newest car model, the recently redesigned CTS midsize, was down 7.5%.

  • Greg Morgan

    Cadillac’s sales momentum began flagging towards the end of fiscal 2013 and deliveries have continued to fall ever since. For the month of July, ATS volumes fell by 11% and XTS volumes fell by 34% compared to the previous year. On a year-to-date basis, ATS sales are down by nearly 21% and XTS sales are down by 24%. Both these models performed well in their first year but it appears as though demand for both models peaked last year. The decline in sales can be explained by what the models set out to achieve: the XTS was targeted at Cadillac’s pre-existing customer base and it is clear that that market does not have room for continued growth; the ATS was launched to steal market share from German luxury makers and this is proving difficult for GM. So far this year, BMW has sold over three times the number of cars sold by Cadillac and Mercedes has sold nearly twice that number.

  • Give the keyboard a rest. There’s no need to spam up the comments section with dozens of worthless posts.

  • Greg Morgan

    you run your mouth and I will run my business, after all, you started it! I was minding my own business and you poked your nose a bit farther than your own business..and it isn’t spam it is the truth…you asked, now I told you! So next time remember: your own business ends at your very own nose dude!

  • No need to get all defensive. I’m just telling you that replying to yourself 50 times with pointless rambling is a waste of time. If you want to have a discussion with someone, that’s fine, I’m all for that, but know that nobody appreciates this convoluted mess you’ve created.

    In the best interest of anyone reading, I have flagged your spam comments accordingly.

    Thank you for your inquiries and have a great day.

  • Greg Morgan

    As I stated…you started this! I had no contact with you at all until your nose traveled a bit farther than it should! I will flag your comments accordingly. Please stop adding fire to the flames. Harass others with your useless jargon!

  • Calm down now. No “traveling noses” or “useless jargon” here. 😉

  • Greg Morgan

    Some folks still don’t get it. Cadillacs don’t need to be “yanked” into the current century. Cadillac needs to get back to doing what it always did best – luxury and style, with a certain element of ostentation.

    A Cadillac needs a certain size, a certain heft. But, what it most needs is to be anticipatory – recognizing what features a driver/owner might want before others, rather than copying features already introduced by others.

    And, of course, it need quality – and a dealer network that treat its customers as kin.

    What used to make a Cadillac a Cadillac is still what they will need to include to make a Cadillac a Cadillac in the future. It’s the essence of the brand.

    can I get a wooo-hooooo here?

  • 2011CTSV

    What hasn’t worked? Oh, I see – you’re an idiot so you’re conflating sales numbers with quality. So you think sales numbers are an indicator of quality, do you? Pick any Cadillac model, it has sold more than a Rolls Royce Phantom.

    I love that you’re so stupid you destroyed your own argument in a single post. Absolutely hilarious.

  • 2011CTSV

    The fact that you’re even mentioning sales in the context of a review of the ATS-V which is not on sale yet is hilarious. Hey, sales of Brontosauruses are down too.

    I’ve already established that you’re lying with every post you make, so why are you bothering? Who do you think you’re fooling, exactly? I mean it takes a special kind of stupid to keep doing it after we already know you’re full of shit.

  • 2011CTSV

    From your own quote: “J.D. Power & Associates report that gave Cadillac top marks for dependability of its 5-year-old models.”

    Hmm. Well that’s pretty much all that needs to be said.

  • 2011CTSV

    So far in almost every post you make, you’ve talked about sales numbers. Meanwhile you’re claiming to own a Phantom, which has sold fewer than any Cadillac.

    It really is hilarious that you can’t even see that.

  • Greg Morgan

    I bought the Phantom as a “toy” it actually stays covered in the garage.I had Mansory to do a little work on it to make it my one of a kind. My 2002 DeVille is still running and looking like new, I actually got a good Northstar! The trick to those engines is NOT to drive them as “The Church Lady” you gotta CHOMP the gas pedal and ‘blow it out’ frequently. You have to keep the carbon from building up in those cylinders, this is what hammers those head bolts loose causing an ugly failure! It has over 130,000 miles on it and where every where I drive it, people always want to buy it. I have a 1976 Fleetwood Series 60 Special Brougham d’Elegance with 26,000 miles it also stays in the garage, when I bought it new I had no intentions of ever selling it especially when I saw the 1977’s. My 1976 Eldorado convertible is Firethorn Red with a white top and interior…it only has 10,000 miles on it I bought it 2 years old for investment purposes. I got tired of Cadillac when I bought the God awful 1981 Fleetwood Brougham with the V8-6-4 which the engine started doing a “buck-dance” in front of many people before blowing out…at 7,000 miles…the engine locked up and blew for the new engine as well, by this time GM saw it was a loser and put those computer chips in it to keep it running on all 8 cylinders (when it wasn’t in the service bay), when it got the 3rd engine I traded it on a 1982 Sedan deVille…quickly! I HATED the HT 4100 dinky little powerless powerplant! The engine went on it around 20,000 miles, a blown headgasket. I traded it on a 1983 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight Regency Coupe for a change (and to stay out of the service bays). I returned to Cadillac for the 1989 model year with the 5.0 litre V8…it was ok but it just wasn’t Cadillac. I traded it on the 1991 Brougham, it had the 5.0 litre Olds powerplant too but it seemed more spirited. I traded it on the 1993 Fleetwood Brougham, I was so Impressed that I kept it until the 1999 model year when I made the awful mistake of trading it on a 1999 DeVille which seemed to me to be “going backwards” since I traded a Brougham on it! But for 1999, the DeVille was head honcho at the Cadillac stables as far as style, I detest those ugly Sevilles and they had become dinky. Now this is where the OMG came into play! The 1999 DeVille was one of the worst Cadillacs I ever owned. The dealer had it more than I did in 1999,2000 up until I went to trade it on the DeVille I got now in 2002. The Cadillac dealer knew the 1999 was junk and was trying to steal it on trade which I promptly refused and bought that elegant puddle-jumper home with me! I left it parked in the garage for a year…I went to crank it up…the engine was ticking, all the lights were like the freakin 4th of July on the dash. I had taken it to the Vogue Tyre Center got the Vogue Tires, the fibre glass fender skirts…even had “Sedan deVille” nomenclature added to the rear quarter panels and the ‘DeVille” motif on the front doors omitted when I ordered it…here’s the kicker…I tried to drive it out of the garage and the right rear wheel had seized and locked up (the black tire mark is still on the garage floor to remind me why I do not buy Cadillacs any more). The guy I sold it to had to bring his flatbed! I kept waiting for Cadillac to change the body style for the DeVille…but they kept making the same car over and over, it was like eating eating leftovers for an entire decade. I went to the S-Class in the 2000’s even had a 760Li…but after driving a traditional Cadillac the Krautmobiles just didn’t fit the luxury bill.. This is why I collect the collectible Cadillacs and continue to drive my 2002 DeVille which still has the original mirror-black finish with the full chrome wheel opening kit and the lower body side kit which makes “DonnaJean” ( Named after actress Donna Mills of knots Landing) gorgeous. I also kept my 1979 Lincoln Continental with the TownCar option. It stays in the garage too.I went to it because the 1979 Cadillacs were too plastic for the money. I call the TownCar Loni ( after actress Loni Anderson) I stopped buying cars because they no longer made a Cadillac. Since I am an automotive journalist and I sell high-end luxury cars I really don’t have to buy them because I drive them all the time. With all the money I was chucking into Cadillacs and the Krautmobiles I was able to buy the “White Knight” which is the RR Phantom. That is what I was telling you. STOP patronizing Cadillac until they make a real car! If everyone would suddenly STOP buying that biodegradable crap they would do a drastic turn around! I didn’t mean to piss you off dude! I just hate to see people suckered in on buying that superficial crap. There is hardly any trade in value on them once they get to a certain age and mileage because as a dealer, we cannot put a warranty on them and make money. People drive them, expensive things go wrong with them all the time and there went the profit PLUS. The dealers wholesale them out the door to protect their reputations! I see them all the time coming in on a trade and people get pissed because they aren’t worth much on a high-end car. You would be shocked to see how many have traded them on other high-end cars like Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Lexus just because they want the luxury Cadillac no longer produces…Again, I didn’t mean to piss you off. I want to drive Cadillac again…something like the Cadillac Sixteen! OMG! When I saw it I thought to myself..”where have you been all my life….when can I get one!” Then…GM couldn’t afford Cadillac so, they axed the Sixteen down to bite-sized pieces! The XTS was actually supposed to have been a larger flagship.The Cadillac DT7 is one of the concept cars for it. They went with the style of the Sixteen since the world went wild over it! But since GM went bankrupt (and could be again) they sliced the XTS way down really…it looks like they took just the nose of the Sixteen and added wheels to it for the XTS, that stop-gap crap is not really a luxury car at all…it is on Forbes list of DON’Ts in the luxury car world. I have friends that bought them by mistake only to trade them to Mercedes or Lexus, the BMW 760 also. I give them “the I told you so.” My advice for cadillac buyers is to “save your money and boycott Cadillac! The road to profit is paved thru consumer satisfaction…remember that secret. If everyone would suddenly stop buying them, they would do a drastic turnaround. Do you realize how adulterated a Cadillac is with so many other various parts? They are a mere hodgepodge of GM parts….with a Cadillac crest – I think the CTS, and ATS look like a shoe-box with axles inserted. I just like a big car…I am sure other cadillac enthusiasts agree with me on that note –

  • 2011CTSV

    We’ve already established you’re too stupid to be having this conversation, since you think sales numbers equals quality, while owning a car that has sold less than any Cadillac.

  • Greg Morgan

    I will ignore this since you obviously have not read my latest reply to you

  • 2011CTSV

    Your latest reply was just as stupid as the rest of them. You still haven’t told me which rolls royce you think you can buy for the price of a Cadillac, that should have been an easy one for you, but somehow you still haven’t been able to do it. But why don’t you copy paste some more sales reports instead of answering my questions? Because that will definitely show me that you’re not an idiot.