Honda Plots Trio of Mid-Engine Sports Cars: Report

Honda Plots Trio of Mid-Engine Sports Cars: Report

Honda is looking to build off the excitement of its Civic Type R and NSX models.

According to a recent report from Motoring, Honda is looking to offer a trio of mid-engine sports cars, starting with the S1000, moving up to the S2000 and finally topping out with the NSX.

Last year, we reported rumors that Honda was considering bringing back the S2000 as a mid-engine, turbocharged hybrid model and it appears that’s still in the works. The Japanese automaker has some new sports-focused models in the pipeline and the company isn’t looking to let off the gas pedal just yet.

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The small S660 sports coupe is now arriving at Japan dealerships and it is being reported that Honda is looking into a more powerful S1000 model with a 1.0-liter turbocharged engine that may come to North America. That model would take on the Scion FR-S, Mazda MX-5 Miata and Fiat 124, while a born-again S2000 would be the candidate to compete against the Porsche Cayman, Audi TT, BMW Z4 and Nissan 370Z. Of course, the NSX sits atop the range to compete with supercars like the Audi R8.

Rumor has it that Honda is evaluating a detuned version of the Civic Type R’s 2.0-liter turbocharged engine for the new S2000, but also on the table is a more efficient 1.5-liter turbocharged engine mated to an electric motor for a hybrid powertrain good for at least 300 hp.

[Source: Motoring]

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  • smartacus

    so glad it will have a de-tuned 2.0 because we can’t have the S2000 stepping on the toes of the Civic with its (gulp) front…wheel…drive! {fap fap fap}

  • smartacus

    But an S1000 or even an S660 Type R would kill the FR-S in USA sales.
    I heard about Scion’s dropoff in sales lately

  • Guest

    Rumour has it that the S1000 will not be coming to North America

  • Jonny_Vancouver

    Idk, man. I think the drop off in sales mainly has to do with Scion needing to upgrade their line up and offering a new gen frs, both of which they are doing. It would be interesting to see a competition between the two, but Scion has also had these last few years to really establish the frs. It would be a tough fight, but also keeping in mind the frs also has those two extra seats and a low starting price when it comes to sports cars, mono spec, and toyota reliability which is arguably slightly better than Honda, which makes the frs more versatile, easier to purchase and adds a little bit of extra piece of mind.

  • John

    Dude get real. The frs has been out for 2 model years and sales were never good. Nobody is thinking a new gen frs can save this one. And as far as “Toyota reliability”, its a rebadged scion. There’s not much Toyota there except for the sheet metal. I’ve heard quite a few people with reliability complaints.

    Now if the s1000 is priced right around 20K, (s660 is about 17k when converted from yen) it would absolutely destroy the competition.

  • John

    Sorry 3 model years.

  • John

    And i meant revadged subaru. Man, proofreading! Lol

  • NinoNessuno

    Developed together, Toyota holds 16.4% of Subaru

  • John

    What do you mean, that Toyota holds 16.4% of Subaru as a company? Like, 16.4% of it’s shares? Or 16.4% of the car’s design? I’m not sure what the relevance is of that to this conversation.

    Besides, The marketing guy from Scion basically said when Jay Leno talked to him that Subaru was responsible for the lion’s share of the R&D and that Scion contributed mostly to the design. He didn’t outright say it, but in his sketchy marketing ways, skillfully avoided talking much about it, instead talking more about it’s aesthetic design. And to top it off, he didn’t really know anything about the boxer engine, or much else technically about the car. Sad.

    So, It pretty much is a Subaru. A cool car, yes. Overrated, absolutely. But nonetheless, a Subaru.

  • NinoNessuno

    Yes Toyota holds 16.4% of Subaru as a company.

    Toyota wasn’t going to build them alone because of cost returns, they had just picked up a bunch of Fuji stock from GM when they approached Subaru. Technically you’re correct as it uses a Subaru engine and the platform was derived from the Impreza. That’s where your ‘lions share’ comes from, not from putting the pieces together, the vision was pure Toyota and they dragged Subaru along kicking and screaming the entire way.

  • Mike

    It’s actually closer to 20 percent. Toyota is the largest shareholder of Subaru/Fuji Heavy Industries.

  • Gavin Varitech

    You must have misheard or whoever you were listening to had no idea what they were talking about. Scion had NOTHING TO DO with developing the FR-S and Subaru had very little.

    What we call the FR-S is a Toyota GT-86. This is a Toyota project that Subaru was offered to participate in after it had already started. The car was engineered by Tetsuya Tada, who works for Toyota, not Subaru.

    Subaru also left the project for almost a year because they wanted the car to be more Subaru (AWD) and did not come back until a prototype was already fully built by Toyota which made them change their minds.

    The boxer engine was all new, not a Subaru holdover from another car, and was co-developed by the two companies at Toyota R&D.

    The idea that it is a rebadged Subaru is absurd and not in any way true (not that it would be a bad thing if it were). The Scion, like pretty much all Scion’s, is a rebadged Toyota that Subaru engineers had a relatively small part in developing.

    It is a true partnership between the two companies, but an unablanced one that was heavily weighted towards Toyota (they started the project, engineered the car, kept the project going and built the first prototype during a long period where Subaru had left it, put out the first concepts, etc etc etc. It is a Toyota more than it is anything else, by A LOT.

  • Gavin Varitech

    It uses a Subaru-inspired boxer engine (FA20) even. It is not a holdover from another Subaru or developed solely by Subaru for this project. They used the FA20 as inspiration and made a whole new powerplant with Toyota’s direct injection and VVT.

  • Gavin Varitech

    The low sales are due to it being a Scion at all. If it were a Toyota GT86, like it is everywhere else in the world, there’s no doubt it would have sold many more units.

  • Pete Flynn

    Granted S2000 was a great sportscar, but it was too expensive for me. It would be nice to see something more affordable that competes with the Miata.